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Installing OS 8 & OS 8.1 on 68030 Macs
Thanks to Vintage Box : 68k Mac - OS 8/030 for the OS 8 & 8.1 hacks.
Description:
Following are methods for installing OS 8.0 and 8.1 on 68030 Macs made with 32 bit clean ROMs.
These Macs have been reported successful with both OS 8.0 and 8.1.
This page shows how to do it with the SE/30.
Hardware Requirements:
 • Macintosh IIci, IIfx, IIsi, IIvi, IIvx, LC III, LC520, 550, 560; Performa 275, 450, 460-467, 600;
   Color Classic II; PowerBook 150, 160, 165, 165c, 180, 180c; PowerBook Duo 210, 230, 250, 270c.
 • Minimum of 12MB of RAM.
 • Single hard drive, minimum of 44MB free space.
 • OS 7.0.1 minimum.
 • CD ROM drive.
OS 8.0 Install:
  1. Hard drive must have boot OS 7.0.1 (or higher), and also ResEdit 2.1.3, System_Picker 1.1a3, os8-030patch.rsrc, and Wish I Were 2.0.
  2. CD ROM drive to have OS 8.0 or OS 8.1 CD.
  3. Boot from hard drive OS 7.0.1 (or higher).
  4. Drag Wish I Were control panel and Wish I Were extension to hard drive OS 7.x.x System Folder icon.
  5. Set Wish I Were control panel to 'Quadra 700', close all control panels, and reboot.
  6. Launch the 8.0 Installer and select Installer options "Clean Install" and "Easy Install".
    NOTE: On the Mac OS 8.1 CD, the OS 8.0 Installer is located at
    Full Install Pieces-->Software Installers-->System Software-->Mac OS 8-->.
  7. When installer is done restart with Network Access Disk 7.5 floppy and do ResEdit hacks:
  8. ResEdit hacks to 8.0 System file:
     • Replace 'boot' resource 'ID 2' with same resource from 'os8-030patch.rsrc'.
     • Replace 'gbly' resource 'ID -16385' with same resource from 'os8-030patch.rsrc'.
     • 'gusd' resource 'ID 1' at offset '000010', replace data '0016 0006' with data
       '00?? 0005', where ?? is the hexidecimal code as shown in this pull-down menu:
    .
     • Quit ResEdit.
  9. Trash the 'Monitors and Sound' control panel.
  10. From the Apple Extras folder drag both the 'Monitors' and 'Sound' control panels to the System Folder icon.
  11. ResEdit hack to 8.0 Finder file: (optional)
     • 'SIZE' resource 'ID -1', change 'Size' to '1310720'.
     • Quit ResEdit.
  12. Use System Picker to select hard drive OS 8.0 for reboot.
OS 8.1 Update Install:
  1. Hard drive must have OS 8.0 which was installed per above, and also ResEdit 2.1.3, System_Picker 1.1a3, os8-030patch.rsrc, 8.1 Update, and Wish I Were 2.0.
  2. Boot from hard drive OS 8.0.
  3. Drag Wish I Were control panel and Wish I Were extension to OS 8.0 System folder icon.
  4. Set Extensions Manager control panel to 'My Settings' and check all boxes.
  5. Set Wish I Were control panel to 'Quadra 700'. Close all control panels.
  6. Use System Picker to reboot from hard drive OS 8.0.
  7. Open the 'Update to Mac OS 8.1' installer and in Options uncheck 'Update Apple Hard Drive Drivers'.
  8. Run 'Update to Mac OS 8.1' installer.
  9. When installer is done restart with Network Access Disk 7.5 floppy and do ResEdit hacks:
  10. ResEdit hacks to 8.1 System file:
     • Replace 'gbly' resource 'ID -16385' with the same resource from 'os8-030patch.rsrc'.
     • 'gusd' resource 'ID 1' at offset '000010', replace data '0016 0006' with data
       '00?? 0006', where ?? is the same code that was used for installing OS 8.0.
  11. ResEdit hack to 8.1 Finder file: (optional)
     • 'SIZE' resource 'ID -1', change 'Size' to '1310720'.
  12. Quit ResEdit.
  13. Remove Wish I Were control panel and extension. (optional)
  14. Use System Picker to select hard drive OS 8.1 for reboot.
Both OS 8.0 and 8.1 have been successful with these Macs:
 • IIci  (20/250, built-in video)
 • IIci  (64/1000, Spectrum/24 PDQ+, DayStar Turbo 040 40MHz)
 • IIfx  (32/250, Macintosh Display Card 670 8•24 820-0600-A)
 • IIsi  (17/250, built-in video)
 • LCIII (36/80) (field report, OS 8.0)
Reference Information
Gestalt ID Codes
68000, 680206803068040
DEC
1
2
3
4
5
6
10
17
19
24
 Macintosh
Macintosh
XL
512Ke
Plus
SE
II
Portable
Classic
LC
PowerBook 100
 DEC
9
7
8
11
13
18
44
48
23
49
83
37
27
62
56
80
23
49
83
37
27
62
45
29
32
38
77
25
54
115
34
84
50
21
33
71
88
 HEX
09
07
08
0B
0D
12
2C
30
17
31
53
25
1B
3E
38
50
17
31
53
25
1B
3E
2D
1D
20
26
4D
19
36
73
22
54
32
15
21
47
58
 Macintosh
SE/30 (32 bit dirty ROM)
IIx  (32 bit dirty ROM)
IIcx  (32 bit dirty ROM)
IIci
IIfx
IIsi
IIvi
IIvx
Classic II  <12MB RAM
Color Classic  <12MB RAM
Color Classic II
LC II    <12MB RAM
LC III
LC III+
LC 520
LC 550, 560
Performa 200  <12MB RAM
Performa 250  <12MB RAM
Performa 275
Performa 400-430  <12MB RAM
Performa 450
Performa 460-467
Performa 600
PowerBook Duo 210
PowerBook Duo 230
PowerBook Duo 250
PowerBook Duo 270c
PowerBook 140    <12MB RAM
PowerBook 145, 145b <12MB RAM
PowerBook 150
PowerBook 160
PowerBook 165
PowerBook 165c
PowerBook 170  <12MB RAM
PowerBook 180
PowerBook 180c
TV      <12MB RAM
 DEC
52
30
60
94
53
98
"
"
36
22
35
78
20
26
89
"
92
"
99
"
102
103
122
72
 Macintosh
Centris 610
Centris 650
Quadra/Centris 660AV
Quadra 605
Quadra 610, 610DOS
Quadra 630
Performa 630-638, 640DOS
LC 630, 630DOS
Quadra 650
Quadra 700
Quadra 800
Quadra 840AV
Quadra 900
Quadra 950
LC 475
Performa 475, 476
LC 575
Performa 575, 577, 578
LC 580
Performa 580CD, 588CD
PowerBook Duo 280
PowerBook Duo 280c
PowerBook 190
PowerBook 500 series
"Performa computers have the same MachineType resources as their Macintosh counterparts."
Born Again Disclaimer:
Born Again, from Brochner Software, is software that permits installing OS 8 or 8.1 on 68030 Macs with 32 bit clean ROMS.
We in no way used Born Again to install OS 8 or OS 8.1 on our 68030 Macs.
We never looked at any code from Born Again.
We got the trial version from the author and tried it once to unsuccessfully install OS 8.1 on an SE/30 with IIsi ROM simm.
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